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Can newspapers help make record companies obsolete?

By on July 15, 2002 (8:00:00 AM)

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- By Robin "Roblimo" Miller -
I just downloaded Internet Porn from The Washington Post's Web site. It's one of the quirkier songs available from MP3.washingtonpost.com, a section of the Post's site that allows local musicians to self-publish their work online for free. MP3 download sections are not yet common in daily newspapers, but if enough of them pick up on the idea, newspapers could become as strong a promotional force in the music industry as traditional record companies.
Howard Parnell, managing editor for local news at washingtonpost.com, came up with the idea of a Post-sponsored MP3 download site. He lived in the Boston area for 15 years, and liked the download area at Boston.com (which apparently closed for a while but has since returned), and thought something similar might go over well in the Washington, D.C., area. He says, "I grew up in this town, and I'm a big fan of the local music scene."

When Howard found that the Perl code behind the Boston.com MP3 site was Open Source, and that he could get a copy free upon request, the idea of a Post MP3 download site suddenly became financially attractive, and he presented it to his bosses. "The publishers had to approve it," he says, "but that was no problem. The idea fit in with a core part of our mission: To encapsulate the Internet for our local audience ... it seemed like a no-brainer."

Some of the Boston.com folks came down and worked on the code with the Post's people. This was a couple of years ago. Since then, Howard says, "we haven't had any real problems with the code."

Howard says Post management is happy with the site. While he won't discuss financial specifics, he says, "we aren't losing money on it."

The artist's view

Cliff Mays' band, Heydevils, is promoted almost entirely on the Internet and by word of mouth. They currently have three songs available for download through the Post's site, and, Cliff says, "The Post has helped a lot with exposure. People go from the Post's site to our heydevils.com site, where there are more MP3s to download, and they can <ahref="http://www.heydevils.com/heydevils_cd.htm">buy our CDs."

"You mean," I ask, "you guys sell CDs through your Web site, and play concerts, and don't have a major record contract, and you manage to make a living as full-time musicians?"

"Yes, we're making a living, Cliff says. "We're all full-time musicians."

The Heydevils are not Internet beginners. At one point, about a year and a half ago, their novelty song, AOHell, was the top download at MP3.com. "AOHell was the first song we uploaded [to the Internet]," Cliff says, "and we got a lot of attention from it."

Cliff designed the Heydevils Web site himself. He says, "The 'Net's been good to us." The Heydevils had their own site up, and were using it to sell CDs and announce upcoming appearances, long before they knew the Post had a music download site. In fact, they didn't go looking for MP3.Washingtonpost.com. The Post found them.

A secret weapon named Maria

Howard says, "There are only two people working on MP3.washingtonpost.com, and they only spend some of their time each week on it." Those two people are tech guy Rhome Anderson and writer/producer Maria Villafana, and Maria says she spends much more than "some of her time" working on the site.

Well, maybe only some of the time she spends in the office -- she has editorial duties on other Post-owned Web sites -- but she says she works on the music download site "more than full time ... I'm in bars and clubs seven nights a week." Some of that time is spent recruiting bands for the download site. Cliff Mays of Heydevils says he first heard about mp3.washingtonpost.com from Maria in a Georgetown nightclub: "She said we should upload some songs to her site, so we did."

Knowing that this kind of personal recruiting is way above and beyond the normal call of duty, I ask Maria, "Is this a job or a labor of love?"

Maria says, "It's more than a job. It's what I've always done for fun and a living."

Before going to work for washingtonpost.com's predecessor, Digital Ink, back around 1995, Maria worked with the Washington Area Music Association (WAMA). This experience is what got her into Digital Ink, where she wrote about music, especially night club acts. When the Post decided to start featuring MP3 downloads, she was already on staff, and she was eager to take on the new responsibility. "When Howard approached me about doing this site," she says, "it was kind of like WAMA, except it had funding and the Post name."

Maria says she listens to every song that goes on the site. "I try not to be judgmental," she says. "It's fun, but it can be a real pain. I filter things because some people can take the freedom to do what they want just a little further than they should. Somebody once uploaded something glorifying date rape. That's the only song I ever turned down."

Beyond basic yea/nay MP3 posting decisions (and recruiting), Maria feels a large part of her job is featuring groups that deserve exposure over and above the basic "band pages" they all get free for the asking. She describes the features she writes about outstanding groups for the front page of the MP3 section like this: "If there's something that's really good, I say to the rest of the community, 'Hey, take a listen!'"

Maria claims she has only had one conflict, ever, with Howard over editorial policy, and that was the time she wanted to write a feature about a band called Da Vinci's Notebook, whose song, Enormous Penis, was getting downloaded like mad. "Enormous What???!!?" is Maria's recollection of Howard's reaction, so she held off on the story about Da Vinci's Notebook until the group had other songs available for download. (Now Da Vinci's Notebook has two more MP3s on the Post's site: Ally McBeal and Internet Porn, and they are both as funny as Enormous Penis.)

All kinds of music

A look at the Post's top downloads shows an amazing variety, from rock to rap to go-go (an ultra-danceable local funk variant) to country to -- at least in the weeks right around July 4 -- The Star Spangled Banner. There's bluegrass, klezmer, techno, classical, punk, jazz, and groups that are not easy to classify by genre. MP3.com may have more titles and bands listed, but the Post carries more than enough kinds of music to satisfy almost any taste.

Quality varies. Howard says, "We have rock and roll hall-of-famers on here, we have some kids from local high schools. This is an outlet for self-expression. We don't make many quality judgments here." He tells of one kid who recorded a song about his graduation from high school. "It was about what you'd expect," he says, "but it got a lot of play around graduation time, even made our 'Top 50' list for a while. A lot of people liked it and downloaded it.

"There's a certain old-school Internet thing about this site," Howard says, "like the commitment to self-expression. And the real power of it is the focus on local community.

"MP3.com, sites like that, are not really competitors," he points out. "They're a national thing. This is about the local music scene, Maryland, Virginia, D.C., West Virginia. You have to assert some localness ..."

There is a certain beauty in listening to an MP3 from a local band and realizing that you can not only buy CDs directly from them, but that you can probably hear them perform live if you're so inclined.

Maria also sees another piece of beauty in hooking music makers and music listeners up with each other through the Internet: "Destroying the record industry as we know it ... that part makes me feel good," she says.

We all know the current "major label" record industry, with its chronic emphasis on a few pop groups and near-exclusion of all other music, its archaic distribution structure, and its resistance to technological innovations, is on the way out. The real question has become, "What will replace it?"

Could newspaper Web sites, combined with musicians' own sites, be part of the answer? Daily newspapers have faced circulation losses for years, and, so far, few of them have managed to make up those losses with their Web sites. But newspapers still have cachet and clout. A band that gets mentioned in the local paper -- or on the paper's Web site -- has a greater chance of success than a band that doesn't. Conversely, music downloads offer newspapers a way to reach young readers they probably would not otherwise capture. Extend the concept one step further: Imagine a "music version" of the Associated Press getting into the act and carrying the top five or 10 MP3s from hundreds of local newspaper MP3 sites. Suddenly bands would have a chance to find big-time fame and fortune without being forced to sign recording company contracts to get "exposure."

The marriage of newspapers and MP3 downloads is -- on the surface -- an unlikely match. But if it gives me interesting and innovative music to listen to, and a chance to support the people who produce that music by going to their performances, and a chance to buy their CDs directly from them instead of from a record company that only shares a tiny fraction of its income with the people who actually make the music, I'm all for it.

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Kewl!!!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 15, 2002 11:30 PM
All i had to read was the header about newspapers carrying local musicans product on MP3 in order to get more public exposure, that is a great idea, i wish more newspapers would do this. it would definatly improve the diversity of music that is available today and most likely improve the quality too and be better than the cookie cutter music the established music industry pumps out by the truckload. i remmeber in the late 1960's till the mid 1970's in San Diego there was a Radio station that sponcered a thing like this called Homegrown records, "Homegrown's allright with me, Homegrown is the way it should be"  :)

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unfortunately this is not possible for lots

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 17, 2002 01:27 PM
I maintain a newspaper website (http://www.postnewspapers.com.au) for a local paper and would _love_ to do something like this. Unfortunately we pay by the megabyte for server traffic, so its a no-can-do, simple as that.

BTW re the site pls don't look @ the code its _ugly_, I took over from the prev manager and haven't yet cleaned it up. PHP rewrite in progress...

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interesting

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 15, 2002 11:57 PM
This is sorta off topic, but has to do with musicians and record companies.

I know quite a few musicians, and most have published their work and some even sell it. And EVERY single one of them is fed up with the record companies. The artists are jipped, they get something like 1% of each sale and the rest goes into the deep pockets of the companies. Something needs to be done about the greedy companies and fast.

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Anything would help

Posted by: DCallaghan on July 16, 2002 12:17 AM
Most radio stations are owned by ClearChannel or Infinity, so its no fun listening to the radio anymore. Large record companies spend too much on distribution and promotion, so they very rarely put out anything interesting. The Napster debacle is just too obvious to bring up again: we all loved it, record sales were up, and now its as gone as my unconditional love for Metallica.

If another venue can pick up the open source distribution of music again, that's great.

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Re:Anything would help

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 16, 2002 01:25 AM
i agree, the radio stations are not the same as they were in the 1960's & 70's

Newspapers, and maybe other websites that are not established by the RIAA & the greedy coprorations...

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Re:Anything would help

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 16, 2002 04:36 AM
http://www.clearchannelsucks.org

This isn't a typical sucks site. It's a very well thought out websites exposing the dangers that this company imposes on our freedoms. Check it out.

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stock options

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 16, 2002 01:27 AM
>>>>The Napster debacle is just too obvious to bring up again: we all loved it, record sales were up, and now its as gone as my unconditional love for Metallica.

So, you love Alanis Morissette and Tori Amos because they supported mp3.com. Get real --- Alanis and Tori were given $14 million each in mp3.com stock options to promote the company.

http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,35232,00.html

What about the independent musicians who want to promote their music? Get real --- even the independent musicians want copy-protected technologies in their CD's.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/24947  .html

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Re:stock options

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 16, 2002 01:42 AM
nice try but thats the label and the trade body that wants that protection.. NOT THE INDIVIUAL ARTISTS. show me were in that article that they even conferred with the artists, they are marketing, about putting copy protection on there content. I find it hard to beleive that any artist woudl want to lock down their creative works. THe copy protection not only protects us from copying but it protects the artist from copying as well. No artist wants to be locked away from their works. Argue if you want but thats what this all boils down to.. Who has control/ownership of the respective works of art. Chances are its the Labels and distribution companies,,, not the performer or artist. You find out who owns it and they are the ones looking to lock it down. not the creators.

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Re:stock options

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 16, 2002 02:04 AM
I am saying that the individual artists that claim to support mp3's and file trading softwares are merely supporting it because they received millions of dollars in stock options in the internet bubble days.

Money is all it boils to. Alanis thought that she can flip that $14 million stock option into $200-300 million easily in those booming internet bubble days. That's a lot more than she can make from CD sales and concert proceeds.

>>>No artist wants to be locked away from their works.

The artists lost their control in their own music several million steps before they were pressed into CD's. The big studio producers from headquarter already control much of the final say into how the music is going to sound.

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Re:stock options

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 16, 2002 02:21 AM
this is the most clueful piece I've read on the debate:

http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.h tml

good to see local initiatives making progress as well. the Net is a tool to promote and foster community - support your local artists!

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Re:stock options

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 16, 2002 02:32 AM
Do you have any evidence to support this stock options charge or is it merely rumor and possibly slander of those artists?

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Re:stock options

Posted by: DCallaghan on July 16, 2002 05:04 AM
mp3.com is a publicly traded company and this stock purchase was publicly documented by the SEC. Amos got 22,500 shares of stock while Morissete's management co. got 658,638 shares at a price of $37/share for a total of $800K and $24M.

For the curious...

MP3.com was incorporated in March 1998.

MP3.com went public on July 21, 1999, on, the Nasdaq National Market under the ticker symbol MPPP. The offering price was $28 per share. On August 28, 2001, the aqusition of MP3.com by Vivendi Universal, S.A. was completed. At that time, MP3.com became a wholly-owned subsidiary of Vivendi Universal, S.A.

Wednesday, 22 November, 2000, Alanis Morissette sold $433,000 worth of shares, having sold $1.5m worth of shares in the previous three months. Share prices were $5.77 on Sep 8, 2000 after settling the lawsuit with Universal.

On August 28, 2001, MP3.com (MPPP) was delisted on the Nasdaq National Market and bought by Vivendi Universal for $372 million, or $5 a share, a 66 percent premium over its $3 stock price at that time.

Michael Roberts, CEO, declined to continue his work with MP3.com under Vivendi. He is now CEO of Lindows.

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Re:stock options

Posted by: DCallaghan on July 16, 2002 02:37 AM
What an odd thing to say.

First, Metallica:
Metallica was one of those bands that can attribute a large part of their success to word of mouth. When Metallica was an LA quartet in 1982, they produced a demo tape "No Life 'Til Leather' and freely circulated it through the underground. Within a year, based on this underground popularity, the moved to SF and signed with Indie label Megaforce Records and released 'Kill 'Em All', then 'Ride the Lightning'. Finally, after their underground root brought them their Indie record deal and some notoriety, they signed to Elektra Records, Metallica made their major-label debut with 1986's Master of Puppets, supported by a U.S. tour with Ozzy Osbourne.

So, I felt that they were denying other start up bands the same route to success that they themselves enjoyed.

Tori Amos and Alaniss Morrisette:

This was a particularly odd choice. Am I supposed to think they are against the RIAA because of their paid sponsorship of mp3.com or am I suppose to think they are for the RIAA because their CDs were release with copy protection that damaged some PCs?

I don't think you can say that Tori Amos fans are excited about copy-protected CDs, Check out this piece from ToriNews:
http://www.thedent.com/badcds.html

Shame on you for making me know 'Torriephile' is considered a word!

And as far as the indie labels wanting copy-protected CDs, i'm sure you'd have to agree that the jury is still not out on that yet. Yes, there was an indie label in the US that put copy-protection on a Charlie Pride CD. And Natalie Imbruglio seems to be in a bit of a tizzy. But you can hardly say that as a body the independent record labels are behind copy-protected CDs.

Also, if we're talking about independent musicians who want to promote their music, as opposed to established indie musicians who want to sell their music, I think you'd get two different answers.

Ultimately, the attempts to put the genie back in the bottle have failed. You can pirate music. The attempts to profit from a new new distribution medium have neither failed nor succeeded because they haven't been tried by the record companies. Have any of them put up a subsciption service where for a membership fee I can sample some of their artists music and then get $2 off so I can buy the CD and play it in my car? No. Have they managed to put money into a technology that has given them nothing but bad press and could be circumventedfor $1?
slashdot.org/articles/02/05/22/1439253.shtml?tid=9 9

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Re:stock options

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 16, 2002 06:22 AM
Metallica suing Napster has nothing to do with denying other startup bands their chances to be heard. There are alternative and legal websites that startup bands can post their songs, like the modern day legit mp3.com website.

With respect to tori and alanis, I am just saying that when they were paid millions of dollars of stock options (that were thought to be able to be flipped for hundreds of millions of dollars), they were all for consumer rights. But when those stock options went under water, then they are suddenly silent on the consumer rights matter.

With respect to indie labels, by virtue of indie bands (like Metallica decades before) making demos and circulating it --- they become in effect indie labels themselves. So in a sense that a trade body representing indie label --- it mostly likely represent indie musicians who put out their cassettes or cd's themselves (ie. they are their own labels.)

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Re:stock options

Posted by: DCallaghan on July 16, 2002 06:45 AM
>Metallica suing Napster has nothing to do with denying other startup bands their >chances to be heard. There are alternative and legal websites that startup bands can >post their songs, like the modern day legit mp3.com website.

Metallica certainly did not help in any constructive way. And although a band can get onto MP3.com, it lacks the community aspect of Napster. You can't get a buzz going. There was a new technology that could have been used to support new bands and rather than work with the community, be it Napster or MP3, the record companies, with the backing of a few select successful artists, drove them into the ground.

And I don't even particularly mind the RIAA doing up. But, Lars, for chrissakes, why are you voluntarily in a courtroom? Not since George Lucas have I seen a core fan base so masterfully turned off. Jar Jar Ulrich.

>With respect to tori and alanis, I am just saying that when they were paid millions >of dollars of stock options (that were thought to be able to be flipped for hundreds >of millions of dollars), they were all for consumer rights. But when those stock >options went under water, then they are suddenly silent on the consumer rights >matter.

I understand now. I really wasn't sure which angle you were playing with those two, since they made headlines on both sides of the fence. Makes sense. But I'm still bitter that you made me see the word Toriphile.

>With respect to indie labels, by virtue of indie bands (like Metallica decades >before) making demos and circulating it --- they become in effect indie labels >themselves. So in a sense that a trade body representing indie label --- it mostly >likely represent indie musicians who put out their cassettes or cd's themselves (ie. >they are their own labels.)

No, an individual group circulating demo tapes is not an indie label. Ask an invidual group circulating demo tapes.

So, the ultimate question. Have the record companies or the radio companies effective used technology to bring more diverse music to their audience? And, are you happy with the current state of music?

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Re:stock options

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 16, 2002 07:06 AM
>>>>And although a band can get onto MP3.com, it lacks the community aspect of Napster. You can't get a buzz going.

It just a matter of perception. You are comparing the old mp3.com and the new mp3.com. You are also comparing the old Napster and the new legit Napster (where it also lacks the community aspect).

>>>>No, an individual group circulating demo tapes is not an indie label. Ask an invidual group circulating demo tapes.

But the whole point of the indie trade group is to provide indie labels and indie musicians --- info, group discounts on where to rent studios, back up singers, pressing 500 cd's at a time,  ... That's what this indie trade group does for a living ---- they are trying to get a group discount on the cd copy-protection technology for their members. So if you are making a bunch of demo tapes and demo cd's, and if you want this technology --- you can pay this group discount fees instead of negotiating with the silicon valley companies directly.

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Re:stock options

Posted by: DCallaghan on July 16, 2002 07:16 AM
Yes, an indie trade group is a good idea for all the reasons you stated.

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Re:stock options

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 16, 2002 05:03 AM
So what's the script?

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Re:stock options

Posted by: DCallaghan on July 16, 2002 06:31 AM
I honestly have no idea what you mean.

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Re:stock options

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 16, 2002 10:29 AM
I posted to the wrong parent. What is the o/s perl script that they are using at the post site? anyone have any idea?

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Re:stock options

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 17, 2002 08:28 PM
You state "even the independent musicians want copy-protected technologies in their CDs." But the link you post (www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/24947.html<nobr>)<wbr></nobr> doesn't say that. It says that a trade groupB representing some independent labels in England favors such a scheme. That's a long way from saying independent musicians, generally, want copy-protection.

CD distribution and sales is different in Britain: you have a nationalized broadcast system and very powerful music magazines, and it's a smaller place.

At any rate, most independent musicians I know would never want their CDs to be unplayable in computers and some cars.

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Here is the code

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 18, 2002 11:09 PM
<A HREF="http://mp3site.sourceforge.net/">http://mp3site.sourceforge.net</a sourceforge.net>

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